What can quantum physics tell us about a life lived at the intersections and margins? According to Karmela and their new book, a lot! Moiya interviews Karmela and they talk about bad bubbles, quantum bones, and the power of abstract thinking.GuestDr. Karmela Padavic-Callaghan is a science journalist, quantum physicist, and author of the book Entangled States: a Life According to Quantum Physics. Check out their substack, Ultracold.MessagesOrder our MERCH! certifiedcrucial.com/collections/pale-blue-podOrder Moiya's book, MOTHERS OF INVENTION Become a star and join the patreon at patreon.com/palebluepod!Go supernova and support Pale Blue Pod on PayPal Listen to Wow if True every other WednesdayFind Us OnlineWebsite: palebluepod.comPatreon: patreon.com/palebluepodTwitter: twitter.com/PaleBluePodInstagram: instagram.com/palebluepodCreditsHost Dr. Moiya McTier. @GoAstroMo, Website: moiyamctier.comHost Connie Gibbs. @constar24Editor Mischa Stanton. Twitter: @mischaetc, Website: mischastanton.comCover artist Shae McMullin. Twitter: @thereshaegoes, Website: shaemcmullin.comTheme musician Evan Johnston. Website: evanjohnstonmusic.comAbout UsPale Blue Pod is an astronomy podcast for people who are overwhelmed by the universe but want to be its friend. Astrophysicist Dr. Moiya McTier and her best friend ConStar demystify space one topic at a time with open eyes, open arms, and open mouths (from so much laughing and jaw-dropping). By the end of each episode, the cosmos will feel a little less “ahhh too scary” and a lot more “ohhh, so cool!” New episodes every Monday.Pale Blue Pod is a member of the Multitude Collective.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.