In this episode of the Painful Lessons Podcast, host Tyler Ramsey continues The Sober List series with director Walter May.Walter opens up about the challenges and rewards of living sober while thriving in the entertainment industry. From navigating Burning Man sober, to working on early Katy Perry music videos, to exploring the sobriety journeys of Marilyn Manson and James Gunn, this conversation blends humor, honesty, and pop culture insight.We explore:Sobriety in Hollywood and creative careersBurning Man and psychedelics through a sober perspectiveJames Gunn’s comeback and long-term recoveryWalter May’s work with stars like Katy Perry, Kobe Bryant & LeBron JamesWhy sobriety can unlock a creative “superpower”A mix of storytelling, laughter, and inspiration — this is Part Two of a series celebrating publicly sober celebrities and creatives.Walter May podcastPainful Lessons PodcastThe Sober Listsobriety podcast 2025famous sober celebritiesHollywood sobriety storiesMarilyn Manson sobrietyJames Gunn sober recoveryaddiction recovery podcastBurning Man sober experienceKaty Perry music videos directordirectors in recoverysobriety and creativity