Bubba Cunningham, UNC Director of Athletics joins the show to discuss how he’s navigated NIL and the transfer portal. Mark and Wes react to their discussion with Bubba Cunningham and talk about what the future of NCAA leadership should look like. After, Mark and Wes continue their discussion on Jimbo Fisher’s reaction to Nick Saban’s comments on NIL. To close the show, we send Packer off to Italy by learning more Italian.