A few months ago, we (Alicia and Nicole) both left demanding roles around the same time. We began talking more intentionally during the transition and sharing notes about what it was like in the messy middle and time of uncertainty. The conversations were so helpful for us that we started recording, thinking maybe it could be helpful for other people. 

You may notice that, especially in the first episodes, we are very much figuring it out as we go. The first four episodes have limited structure, though still plenty of meaty discussion. If you want to get straight into the messy middle, start with the first four episodes with “rough cut” in the titles. If you listen better with more structure, start with Episode 5, where we start diving deeper into specific topics with each episode.

Choose your listening path and Own It.