Sarah traveled to Tucson to sit in a casita with founder of River Writing and dear friend Nan Seymour. She also planted a secret microphone to record their conversation, which delighted Nan! The episode begins with a stunning read of the poem by Jacob Shores Arguello entitled The Names of Grasses which brings both women to tears. Follow these two lifelong poets into the catacombs of creativity where they discuss art which goes far beyond commodity and becomes a necessity.&nbs...