.  My Dad, Walter, took part in the conversation also. 0:01 Introduction and short background on Marty 1:51 -  Marty and my Dad join in and Marty explains why he wrote the book 6:08 - Listen to the Land song 8:55 - Mickey's Ten Commandments 10:11 - Trinidad Ruiz and cast member enthusiasm 12:32 - Alex Haley and the Equatorial Africa pavilion 15:06 - Herb Ryman and Ryman Arts 17:34 - Fort Wilderness and River Country 19:44 - Michael Eisner/Roy Disney feud 22:47 - overcrowding at Disney parks 24:56 - what happened to the "Disney's America" park 26:59 - 1964 New York World's Fair 30:17 - farewell and epilogue Your browser does not support this audio The embedded player works best in Google Chrome.  You can also download the mp3 by clicking here, and the podcast is available in iTunes.