Dr. Leonard J. Delorenzo, from the McGrath Institute for Church Life at the University of Notre Dame, joins us to talk about his new book on prayer, "Into the Heart of the Father: Learning From and Giving Yourself Through Christ in Prayer." In both the book and the conversation, he suggests simple perspective shifts that have profound implications in our practice and experience of prayer.

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