In  episode 11 of Our Sam Talking out Loud, Founder, Philippa Davies, talks in-depth with Bob McGurrell from 4Louis, the Sunderland based family charity, legacy of Bob&apos;s grandson Louis. Bob talks openly about Louis and the effect of losing him on the whole family, as well as 4Louis as a charity, and the support they provide nationally to bereaved parents and healthcare providers, and finally Bob talks to Philippa about the effect of baby loss on grandparents.The podcast is supported by a blog post on the spotlight on baby loss support organisations page under the Talking out Loud section of the Our Sam website.If you would like more information on 4Louis or to get in contact with Kirsty, Bob, or any of the 4Louis team you can go to 4Louis.co.uk

Episode 10 - Our Sam Talking out Loud - 'Being a Chaplain'

Our Sam Talking out Loud Podcast series is produced by Our Sam baby loss charity (Charity Registration Number 1191411). Every year more than a quarter of a million people are affected by baby loss in the UK, yet it still remains one of the most taboo and difficult subjects we come across, leaving many bereaved parents isolated and struggling on their own. Each month, Our Sam Talking out Loud podcasts will not only open the door to honest conversations about baby loss from parents and families, to raise awareness and understanding following miscarriage, termination for medical reasons, stillbirth and neonatal death, but will also spotlight the organisations and professionals who can provide support for bereaved parents and families, when they need it most. You may find parts of some of these podcasts upsetting, but our aim is to not only talk about the incredibly sad stories of loss, but also the strategies people have used to help them cope with the heartbreak and trauma of baby loss, to help other bereaved parents and families find a way to cope and know they are not alone.