Continuing the dialogue with Hannah, I mention how I've observed the hyper-individualism of American culture can lead one to feeling stuck in a kind of self-contained cocoon. We further discuss the immediate effects of the 'default' mode of alienation and a sense of separation so prevalent throughout modern American culture. How does one break through such illusory walls? This transitions into a discussion of other forms of self-healing and exploration, such as working with entheogens.