This week, we are thrilled to be joined by the producer of the longest running, most successful, fully independent podcast out there, Chris Wade of Chapo Trap House. In addition to producing and being a 4th mic on Chapo, Chris also acts as a cohost of the “Hell On“ limited series, as well as his own podcast he cohosts with his wife, And Introducing. We get into the past, present, and future of podding, from Chris pivoting to podding after falling victim to the pivot to video in the early 2010’s at Slate, to his experience joining the 3-headed beast that is Chapo, to what lies ahead for both his “Hell On” series at Chapo and a new push to grow And Introducing. Skip ahead to about