This week, we get into it for an extended interview with fellow podcast host, Cliff Rodriguez. Cliff hosts The Buyer's Club podcast, in which he interviews fashion and fashion-adjacent guests from the point of view of a fashion insider. We discuss with him the light topics such as wearing socks with loafers, the guest booking process, editing reels to promote the pod, and his podcast diet, as well as heavier subjects such as leveling up your life, what's the purpose anyway, and giving newcomers the blueprint.

Skip the first 9 mins in if you're just here for Cliff.