This week, we are joined by co-host/producer of the ~other~ TF (Trashfuture), Nate Bethea. Nate is also a co-host and/or producer on What a Hell of a Way to Die, Lions Led by Donkeys, and Kill James Bond, all podcasts in our regular rotation. Given his vast repertoire of podcasts, we spent a good amount of time getting into the weeds of it all, from doing research/showrunning on a pod, to the editing process (he is a producer, after all), to growing their following; whether its viral video content or utilizing existing networks or doing live shows. We also talk about his pathway to podcasting, from his (regrettable) article talking about his connection to Bowe Bergdahl and co-hosting a companion podcast to the Serial Season 2 about the case, to the present day, now having co-hosted a podcast about why not to join the military for 7 years. We finally get a little bit into his own preferred podcasts, from Boonta Vista, to a specific episode of The Nod, to NYT/Serial’s The Trojan Horse Affair, and touch on his decision to leave America and his experience/opinion on the politics of the two countries since.

In practice of our new “segments” format, we put (most of) the Boyz only talk at the end so you don’t have to skip thru it, but at that point we have a nice little discussion about sports, including the NBA offseason deals and Alex dropping a foul ball at the Mets game.