Steve and Izzy are film reviewers, podcasters, artists, and the hosts of Everything I Learned from Movies, a long-running podcast with an impressive backlog of guests who were actually involved in making films you know. 
This is a cool episode about figuring out how to make and promote your thing, and we talk about all kinds of Ogden local stuff and movie trivia. 
You can also find Izzy's art at Untidy Venus