You might have heard of Ben Nadolski because he's a city council member, but also he's running to be Ogden mayor, so it's a good time to get to know him if you haven't already. Plus I ask him about the bird refuge, union station, the city's relationship with developers, the arts and homelessness, so listen now before you die from anticipation. 

P.S. Happy Juneteenth you frickin history buffs!