There are two things people hate: change and the way things are. But knowing that we can’t stand still and understanding that too much change can be daunting, how is it that we make an incremental change over and over again?

This episode's guest is Jordan Ludwig, Co-founder of Stack’d consulting and a go-to leader when it comes to organizational change and human centricity. Jordan shares some of the changes they’ve made in recruiting and their business, and the steps they’ve taken to ensure success.