In this episode of On the Write Track, Emily sits down with Penn Cole, New York Times and USA Today bestselling author of the Kindred's Curse Saga, to talk about the wild, unlikely road from self-publishing to a traditional deal with a Big 5 publisher. Penn opens up about leaving a career as an attorney to chase writing full time, and the leap of faith it took to bet on herself before anyone else would.

On the Write Track is a podcast from debut authors Sarah Mughal Rana and Emily Varga that address the little known secrets of traditional publishing and behind the scenes, from guests in different stages in the industry, to provide our listeners an insider's look. Guests include New York Times, International bestselling, and critically acclaimed authors, agents, Big 4 publishing editors, successful Tik Tok book influencers, marketers, and everything in between. Follow our socials and subscribe for the latest updates. Consider signing up to our Patreon page, even a small help goes a long way, to support the podcast, receive unique perks, and get exclusive Q&A access and writing advice from us!