<p>Host Elisabeth Braw speaks to Kusti Salm, Permanent Secretary of the Estonian Ministry of Defence, about Zapad-2021, Russia’s quadrennial military exercise. Salm previously served as the Director General of the Estonian Centre of Defence Investment.</p>

Elisabeth Braw, scholar at the American Enterprise Institute, presents 'On the Cusp' which focuses on how governments, business and civil society can work together to strengthen countries' defence against existing and emerging threats. Each episode she interviews a guest who is a leader in their respective field.