<p>Host, Elisabeth Braw, speaks with Hasit Thankey, Head of NATO's Civil Preparedness Unit, about NATO's new direction and its plans to help member states build civilians' resilience and prepare them against grayzone threats. </p>

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Elisabeth Braw, scholar at the American Enterprise Institute, presents 'On the Cusp' which focuses on how governments, business and civil society can work together to strengthen countries' defence against existing and emerging threats. Each episode she interviews a guest who is a leader in their respective field.