Dr. Michelle talks about the pleasure principles which can make us have happier lives and better "highs,"as she interviews Jodi Gould, author of "High; 6 Principles for Guilt-Free Pleasure and Escape." Hear about these alternative pleasures which can give us the highs we seek without mood-altering substances. Learn the joy of more "natural" activities and easy mind tools. Find out more about Jodi Gould and get her book at: jodiegould.com