Andrew Heartman is a 12-year veteran surrogate partner, who is passionate about overcoming misconceptions about Surrogate Partner Therapy (SPT) and disseminating accurate information about the practice. As part of this mission, he presents regularly to private practices, therapist organizations, university classes, and podcasts like "On Listening." As co-founder of the Surrogate Partner Collective and mentor to surrogate partners in training, he is committed to elevating the professionalism of those who engage in this therapy modality as well as the understanding of the public. More information, including videos and interviews, can be found at <a href="https://www.surrogatepartner.us/" rel="noopener">https://www.surrogatepartner.us/</a><br />We discuss his work and how listening figures in SPT.

Megan Mack

On Listening is an exploration of listening in all its forms. Our guests will take you on an auditory journey to deepen your appreciation of listening. Experts in a variety of fields as well as everyday people will share their insights and experiences listening to others, to their own bodies, to data, and to themselves. People often strive to listen better, more skillfully, less hurriedly; here we will also explore the “dark side” of listening. Is it always healthy to listen? Are good listeners ever harmed? Join me as we both explore the human experience of listening. Hosted by Daniel Rosen, LCSW-R, CST