The lads convene once-a more to discuss the lads from Swindon XTC, specifically their 1979 landmark record "Drums & Wires". We're joined once again by Matt Ohanian (bass player for DAEVES, Bears For Years, and all-around goodboy) to discuss Colin Moulding's absolutely stellar bass playing, how many Nigels there actually are in the world (the final number may shock you), and the life expectancy in Bulgaria. It has to do with their jelly-like milk or something?