Oh dip, Steve and Carl are back for episode 5. Hell yeah. This week, Carl listened to Marnie Stern's "This Is It and I Am It and You Are It and So Is That and He Is It and She Is It and It Is It and That Is That," and Steve listened to Protomartyr's "The Agent Intellect." They had a lot to talk about. They also talked about the mysterious cult leader known simply as, "Tiguan." Please listen. Thanks!