It's time for another edition of Off The Record with Davey Segal.

This week, Davey is joined by NASCAR Truck Series legend -- Brad Perez (you may know him as Bread) and PR and everything guy Phillip Smalley.

Mamba Smith joins the show as co-host from on the road in Austin and the conversation is electric. Enjoy as Brad talks about the insanity that went into his first-career Truck Series start earlier this season and Phillip does a deep dive into all of the stuff he does for driver clients.