Kate and Jess are joined by Stanford basketball star Cameron Brink (who loves Barbie and has never seen Sandlot!), and then they debut a brand new segment called “The OpEd” to discuss a story that piqued their interest — a New York Times article about NIL and the marketing of female athletes — which also connects with Brink. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Cardinal Rule

Kate Fagan and Jessica Smetana host this magazine style podcast. The show will include a mix of interviews, skits and discussions that consider an alternative historical point of view on culture, as well as women’s sports and those who have critiqued them. While the show is *technically* about sports, it will mostly enter through the side doors of pop culture and comedy, with a northstar of telling the story of (women in) sports with humor, insight, and joy.