Today our hosts welcome Philippe Herndon of Caroline Guitar Company. He talks about their latest pedal, a self-proclaimed normie pedal called the Aaron Graves Overdrive. We talk about specific design choices, the story of its namesake, and the importance of versatility even in a fairly fundamental pedal. Plus, we get the scoop on why they use pictures instead of labels, and Philippe has a surprise for us in lieu of the traditional object talk. It's basically a two parter, so fire it up and get listening!