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Michelle interviews her girlfriend Dani Kelzer on the liberating ideology of Mac DeMarco as presented through his album,  Another One. In this episode Dani and Michelle discuss their internal process of self discovery and self actualization and the obstacles present within that journey. To Dani, Mac DeMarco is a laid back stoner who's altruistic and caring at heart, which she finds to be a freeing mindset. The thesis being that wanting other to be happy will bring you more happiness than simply wanting yourself to be happy.