Can a church really shepherd people it doesn’t know? In this episode, Brody sits down with Jonge Tate to challenge the way we think about church, leadership, and success. They talk about the problems with chasing numbers, the multi-site church model, and why healthy churches need real pastors, real relationships, and shared leadership. Jonge also shares the lessons behind Bedrock’s church planting journey, including why sending your best leaders away may be one of the hardest and most faithfu...