What can a media startup learn from a 80-year-old institution – and what can a legacy publisher learn back? In this special live episode from the INMA World Congress in Berlin, Kerstin Hasse sits down with Rainer Esser (Die Zeit) and Sruthi Gottipati (Spot On) for a cross-generational conversation on leadership, loyalty, and the future of media. Including the question neither of them saw coming: what would you do if you had each other's job for one day?