You already know him from the mirror pics. His wife and him are my official NDC’s Baked Goods taste testers. But we’ve never actually just sat down and talked — until now.

This week I’m sitting down with Isaiah “Zay” Green and we’re getting into the rat race we call life. The blueprint we were all handed, what it costs to follow it, what it takes to build something outside of it, and why most people don’t even realize they’re running a race they never signed up for.

Zay also breaks down his nonprofit Clocked In — and yes, the irony of Clocked In meeting Off the Clockwas not lost on either of us. 😂

This one went places. Pull up.

Find Zay: @zaygreen356