Ciel "Zay" Skal: "Be honest about yourself... Yes, even about your family!" 

We're back in the studio with a (self-proclaimed) okay artist, good scientific illustrator, and recovering humanitarian Ciel "Zay" Skal. If we're being honest, Zay is an incredible artist who has a diagnosis of Anxiety and is recovering from (and with) PTSD. All those racing thots! Someone catch them! 

Zay and Samara go way back to the coffee grounds that brought them together and catch up with no cup of coffee in sight. Sit in with them as they dive deep into moms and how complicated they are, traumatic childhoods and how to grow up with them, trying to find yourself (where did you even go?), people that are actually parents, Zay's cute baby hands, how frustratingly simple the meaning of life is, and so much more on this important-thot-filled episode of Negative Thots! 

Huge thanks to Zay for sharing her story, it's a difficult but important story to share. To see what she is up to, you'll have to wait! 

Zay is actively working on releasing an art project under her pseudonym (Ciel Skal), and Negative Thots will help promote her work with her socials when it's released! Until then, just listen to this episode on repeat for full effect! 

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