SummaryEsther Sperber, an architect and founder of Studio ST Architects, shares her journey and experiences in the field of architecture. She discusses her time working for IM Pei and the challenges and rewards of starting her own firm. Esther also talks about the balance between architecture and business, the challenges faced by Studio ST Architects, and the impact of the pandemic on their work. Additionally, she explores her diverse interests in psychoanalysis, culture, and religion and how they intersect with her approach to design and architecture. In this conversation, Esther Sperber discusses the fluidity of spaces and the challenges of creating inclusive environments. She explores the balance between security and openness in design and shares examples of different approaches to security in worship spaces. Esther emphasizes the importance of designing for difference and creating spaces that accommodate diverse needs. She also discusses the impact of codes on design and the potential for innovation in areas like restrooms. Esther's diverse interests and experiences have shaped her practice and she encourages others to follow their passions and embrace their unique contributions.TakeawaysDesigning inclusive spaces requires balancing security and openness.Creating spaces that accommodate diverse needs is essential for inclusivity.Codes play a role in design, but there is room for innovation and questioning normative standards.Designing for difference can lead to more creative and fruitful solutions.Embracing diverse interests and experiences can enhance architectural practice.