Preston is one of my closest and funniest old shipmates and in this interview we go deep.  Here is some of what is semi-soberly discussed: wooden boats having more of a spirit than boats made from other materials, the time I was hitchhiking in Japan and briefly became part of a Shinto Priest group, lots of boat maintenance lessons (pro-tip... the only thing worse than painting yourself into a corner is painting yourself into the headrig!), and how Preston used nautical knowledge to keep himself safe when going through the worst part of Oakland at Also, here is a link to Preston's Disneyland Train Simulator Video Game he made which we mention in the episode...https://ckhollidayplans.com/ Intro/Ending Music: Many thanks to Riggy Rackin for allowing the use of music from his Nauticas album. The intro and ending themes are the sailor song "A Roving", specifically track 1.  Learn more or order his music at www.riggy.com My Children's Books:  "The Greatest Captain in the World" and "The Greatest Captain in the World Too" are available on Amazon or directly from me at...  www.greatestcaptain.com   Please support me at...Patreon  https://www.patreon.com/NKNshow  Or via Paypal  https://www.paypal.com/donate/?business=PTYG3GDRKYWKN And I also accept Bitcoin!    bitcoin:bc1qjg3ckh0qqva7fuarc7dwe224gwnmn0k3l5hlvr