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– Chuck: Say “hi” Michael! Introduce yourself.

– Michael: I am a big language learner: Spanish, Portuguese and Chinese. I learned through T.V. and music. I decided to build an app that helped with languages. I started doing it.

– Chuck: You hired a developer and had no idea what the developer what was doing. How do you make that transition? They just go with it – right? How did you decide: no, I have to understand THIS.

– Guest: It’s either I am really into it or I am NOT into it. I have been always very good with mathematics. The computer broke when I was in school and the only option we had were these...He was writing all these variables and I loved variables.

– Chuck: You talk about natural languages – I see the correlation sometimes and sometimes I don’t. I learned French in school, and then I became fluent in Italian during my Mormon missionary trips.

– Guest: I am reading this book right now and you have to understand the technicians’ role in order to help lead him.

– Chuck: Did you let your developer go? Or did you keep him around?

– Guest: I let him go actually b/c he was on for a part-time basis. I started coding myself. I got help from friends and I got help from a lot of other people. I would ask them tons of questions and form a friendly relationship with them. From there, it snowed-ball from there!

– Guest: From that experience, I learned a lot. If I had to REDO what I did originally, then I would have done the following things differently...

– Chuck: I can identify with that – I was a freelancer for 8-9 years. I would build something and then they say: that’s not what we hired you to build.

– Guest: They wonder why they are getting this feedback?

Chuck: Why Ruby on Rails?

– Guest: I didn’t know the difference between mobile frameworks and web frameworks.

– Chuck: Yeah I don’t like the word “dumb” either.

– Guest: Ruby was very smooth and I liked it. I got addicted to the process through the Rails way and the Ruby syntax.

– Chuck: Same for me. I have done PHP before but when I got into Rails it naturally flowed into the way I wanted to work on stuff. I get it.

– Chuck: What are you working on now?

– Guest: This project that I have been working on now for 1.5 years.

– Chuck: You talked about how you picked up React Native.

– Guest: Yes, yes.

– Chuck: How did you settle on React Native?

– Guest talks about the Spanish and English languages.

– Chuck: I am curious – why didn’t you go with RubyMotion?

– Guest: I didn’t know anyone that could help me honestly. Also, I didn’t think it was going to be EASY to learn for me.

– Chuck: Is Reactive Native your main focus?

– Guest: No building just designing and putting it in front of people. I want to get a prototype to get more funding. I want to know EXACTLY what we are building.

– Chuck: For entrepreneurs, any advice for anything to get this rolling?

– Guest: If I had to do it again I would draw it out on paper and figure out how to get to MVP right away. I would try to get validation right away from not building too much

– Chuck: I am working on a service to help podcasters. They see that that I run 15 shows through DevChat.TV. If I can solve those three problems then I am golden: monetization and/or production. For scheduling guests it’s a pain point for most podcasters.

– Chuck: Some of the validation for me is talking to people through conferences and other venues. Main question is: What are you doing for scheduling? It takes a bunch of time.

– Guest: Inviting people to the show.

– Chuck: This is the 16th interview this week so far! To give you an idea!

– Guest: You lost me along the way only b/c I don’t do podcasting. You know the problem b/c you are doing it, and you are within the field.

– Chuck: The more I talk to people the more I get ideas and such.

– Guest.

– Chuck: They are worried that their ideas are going to get stolen.

– Chuck: It’s interesting to see where it goes. I have 2 more interviews after this.

– Chuck: Did we get into your mobile app then?

– Guest: It was really hard for me, but now I love coding. Getting it in front of people and testing it. I am trying to keep my education going. I learn by doing and learning by being thrown in to the fire. I am doing a free code camp now. Any suggestions, Chuck that you could offer?

– Chuck: Learning how to prioritize. What are you aiming at, and what goal are you trying to achieve? I want to make a video course on HOW to stay current?

– Chuck: Where can people find you?

– Guest: Twitter! There really isn’t an easy way to find me online – something I should probably fix.

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