One of my favourite things about talking to someone about their passion is that it can often surprise you.

When I first thought about who I wanted on this podcast, Patrick Keyzer right up there on my list.

He was my constitutional law professor, I worked as his research assistant and he’s just such an incredibly passionate individual.

Now  a Dean of Law and an esteemed barrister, he's also earned a reputation for outstanding legal research.

So when I first asked him to come on I fully expected this to be a podcast about the law.

But when I asked him about his passion the conversation turned to music and it was clear that’s where his passion lay.