David Gore finally starts to realize that Fred was always trying to set himself up with a way out. Murder Phone brings true crimes podcasts to a new level when Gore discusses in detail how he would terrorize his victims. He continues to talk about things that most crime podcasts have never covered. These are memories of crimes told from the killer himself which makes for some thriller episodes. David Gore tells Tony Ciaglia that he could help with at least 12 more cold cases that he remembered in detail what happened. Gore describes one of his early murders from the 1970s. He is now feeling the pressure of the push for his execution and it comes through in his writing, but he still continues to talk freely.