Intro2:43 What is the nature of suffering?3:27 What’s divinity?4:25 How does one live from true nature?6:13 How does true nature fit in with tarot reading and ancestral work?17:04 What is the phenomenology of card reading and do you have particular metaphysical positions about it? 27:23 What about a secular or non-spiritual path to true nature? 30:48 What’s reindiginization? 35:09 Cancel culture39:14 The identities of privilege and the victim45:27 Pointing back to true nature 55:08 How does this all fit in with the 21st century?59:22 How does wisdom and true nature fit into the practice of technology?1:04:21 Perspectives on capitalism 1:12:14 Not making capitalism, products, and wealth wrong1:18:30 What is the nature of suffering and what is the path to its cessation?1:19:40 Closing thoughts from Laura and where to connect1:21:02  Drawing a tarot card to end the podcast