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#190 - Sam Lyman - China’s Secret War on American AI
1 hour 1 minutes Posted Jul 2, 2026 at 5:26 pm.
China’s AI War00:00:47 - China Is Sabotaging US AI00:01:02 - The Bot Campaign Against Data Centres00:02:03 - Neville Roy Singham00:03:14 - Why AI Is a Battle for Control00:04:18 - China’s Open-Source AI Strategy00:06:12 - What Americans Fear About AI00:08:23 - Sam’s Background at Treasury and BPI00:10:38 - Is Data Centre Opposition Organic?00:12:32 - The China Influence Network00:13:37 - What Is Code Pink?00:16:10 - The Party for Socialism and Liberation00:18:52 - How Data Centre Protests Slow AI00:23:37 - $24 Billion in AI Buildout Stalled00:27:55 - Why China Wants to Slow US AI00:29:12 - Chinese AI or American AI00:32:03 - Is Chinese AI Harvesting Data?00:36:37 - The US Enters the Open-Source Race00:42:52 - The AI Doomer Debate00:54:17 - The Push for Data Centre Moratoriums- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -CONTACT PETE› Website – http://petermccormack.com› Feedback – https://www.petermccormack.com/contact› Email – [email protected]› Instagram – /mccormack555› X/Twitter – https://x.com/petermccormack/CONNECT WITH SAM LYMAN› Website – https://www.btcpolicy.org/› X/Twitter – https://x.com/SamLyman33SPONSORS› IREN - https://www.iren.com/› Plaud - https://www.plaud.ai/mccormack- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -LISTEN / SUBSCRIBE› Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/40ruY9K› Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3Wc94Vu› Fountain: https://bit.ly/FountainPM› YouTube: https://bit.ly/YouTube_PM› Rumble: https://bit.ly/RumblePMFILMED BY CURTIS TAYLOR› https://www.curttaylor.co.uk/› https://x.com/curttayloruk/EDITED BY CONOR MCCORMACK› https://x.com/ConorM04- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Sam Lyman joins me to discuss how China is allegedly targeting America’s AI buildout, the activist networks fighting data centres and why the race for AI infrastructure has become a national security battle.Sam explains how Chinese influence campaigns, open-source AI models, data centre protests and far-left activist groups may be working together to slow the United States down. We discuss Neville Roy Singham, Code Pink, the Party for Socialism and Liberation, foreign influence, anti-data centre campaigns, and how billions of dollars in AI infrastructure have reportedly been delayed or blocked.We also get into open-source AI, DeepSeek, US frontier models, Anthropic, AI export controls, whether AI doom narratives are being used to build regulatory moats, the risk of superintelligence, data centre moratoriums, socialism in America and why Sam believes the battle is now between Chinese AI and American AI.- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -TIMESTAMPS:00:00:00 - China’s AI War00:00:47 - China Is Sabotaging US AI00:01:02 - The Bot Campaign Against Data Centres00:02:03 - Neville Roy Singham00:03:14 - Why AI Is a Battle for Control00:04:18 - China’s Open-Source AI Strategy00:06:12 - What Americans Fear About AI00:08:23 - Sam’s Background at Treasury and BPI00:10:38 - Is Data Centre Opposition Organic?00:12:32 - The China Influence Network00:13:37 - What Is Code Pink?00:16:10 - The Party for Socialism and Liberation00:18:52 - How Data Centre Protests Slow AI00:23:37 - $24 Billion in AI Buildout Stalled00:27:55 - Why China Wants to Slow US AI00:29:12 - Chinese AI or American AI00:32:03 - Is Chinese AI Harvesting Data?00:36:37 - The US Enters the Open-Source Race00:42:52 - The AI Doomer Debate00:54:17 - The Push for Data Centre Moratoriums- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -CONTACT PETE› Website – http://petermccormack.com› Feedback – https://www.petermccormack.com/contact› Email – [email protected]› Instagram – /mccormack555› X/Twitter – https://x.com/petermccormack/CONNECT WITH SAM LYMAN› Website – https://www.btcpolicy.org/› X/Twitter – https://x.com/SamLyman33SPONSORS› IREN - https://www.iren.com/› Plaud - https://www.plaud.ai/mccormack- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -LISTEN / SUBSCRIBE› Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/40ruY9K› Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3Wc94Vu› Fountain: https://bit.ly/FountainPM› YouTube: https://bit.ly/YouTube_PM› Rumble: https://bit.ly/RumblePMFILMED BY CURTIS TAYLOR› https://www.curttaylor.co.uk/› https://x.com/curttayloruk/EDITED BY CONOR MCCORMACK› https://x.com/ConorM04- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.