It's always fun to get insights from people I coach. Especially if it's someone that you've known your entire life.

This interview is with one of my brothers. He's been making great strides in moving his desk these past few years and it's been fun to see him keep growing.

Listen as he shares his desk moving experiences, insights from rugby, quotes from our Dad, and his approach to sales strategies, self-improvement, and passion/purpose.

And, though I edited this a lot, please excuse any sirens in the background. Ha. We had about four rounds of emergency vehicles going by my home as we recorded. No dull moments here.