Eric does some camping, Jon does some hiking, and then there is another breach and Jon gets into some psychological motivational theory. Finally Eric is still stuck in space and Jon shares a biological discovery.  0:00 - Intro 1:35 - Cape Lookout Trail 3:00 - Tillamook 4:04 - YubiKey 5Ci 6:38 - EV Cert Lifespan 10:12 - MoviePass Breach 17:49 - Alex Stamos @ USENIX 2019 26:30 - Cool Milky Way Timelapse 28:57 - HIV discovered in 1966   

Intro 1:35 - Cape Lookout Trail 3:00 - Tillamook 4:04 - YubiKey 5Ci 6:38 - EV Cert Lifespan 10:12 - MoviePass Breach 17:49 - Alex Stamos @ USENIX 2019 26:30 - Cool Milky Way Timelapse 28:57 - HIV discovered in 1966

090: IBM: Hold My Chip

Jon and Eric have worked in the security space as developers, architects and leaders for more years than they care to count.  From commentary on current events to random musings, they chat (mostly) about security and technology topics.  However, life is more than just the day job.  From beekeeping adventures to hiking mountains to favorite shows, there's always something fun to wrap up the show.