More Than Counts
More Than Counts
Judge Mimi
020 John Newby - Can You Make a Living as a Professional Cheerleader?
36 minutes Posted Jul 6, 2026 at 12:00 pm.
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Professional cheerleading is no longer just an idea—it's becoming a reality.In this episode, Judge Mimi sits down with John Newby, Commissioner of the Professional Cheer League (PCL) and EVP of Varsity International, for a behind-the-scenes look at what it takes to build a professional league from the ground up.They discuss the vision behind the PCL, why the league is moving to a head-to-head format, what new games are coming in Season 2, and how the league is creating more opportunities for athletes to shine. John also shares how athlete compensation works, the challenges of bringing international athletes into the league, and what still needs to happen before professional cheer becomes a full-time career path.To wrap up the conversation, John and Judge Mimi watch one of his favorite PCL routines together, breaking down the moments that made it unforgettable and what fans might have missed.Whether you're an athlete dreaming of competing professionally, a coach following the evolution of the sport, or simply curious about where cheerleading is headed, this episode offers an inside look at the decisions shaping its future.TakeawaysWhy the PCL was created and the vision driving its growth.How the new head-to-head format changes the fan and athlete experience.What athletes are paid and what needs to happen for professional cheer to become a full-time career.The challenges—and opportunities—of expanding the league internationally.Why building a professional sport takes more than great athletes—it takes trust, collaboration, and a shared vision.Chapters00:00 The New Format and Vision for the Future20:35 Visa Requirements and Logistics26:08 Dallas Drive's Performance and Props Feedback31:32 Scheduling and Event Logistics