In this episode, Katy Draper and Logan Draper talk about preparing for their second kid, facing their phobias, how they've been bettering themselves, and Logan quizzes Katy on the weather.

MMM 119: Reflections on COVID Test, Leftovers Quiz, Guessing Why Topics Are Trending

Modern Mad Men is an unedited and uncut podcast produced by DesignWorks Group in Wichita Falls, TX. Each episode, Logan Draper and Jared Vann dive into the minds of business owners, entrepreneurs, thought leaders, dreamers, creators, and marketers to discuss failures, breakthroughs, leadership, and how to put yourself or your business in a place to succeed now and in the future.