In this episode, Logan Draper and Jared Vann discuss the frailty of life by talking about the best/worst ways to die. Warning: If you want to get to the marketing portion of the podcast, skip ahead to 

, where we talk about obtrusive marketing, providing for people in order to market your business, and storytelling around your products or services.

MMM 64: Talking Creativity with the Three-Time Pun-Off Champion (With Jay Burnam)

Modern Mad Men is an unedited and uncut podcast produced by DesignWorks Group in Wichita Falls, TX. Each episode, Logan Draper and Jared Vann dive into the minds of business owners, entrepreneurs, thought leaders, dreamers, creators, and marketers to discuss failures, breakthroughs, leadership, and how to put yourself or your business in a place to succeed now and in the future.