MGAA Conversations
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Managing General Agents’ Association
033: Inside BIBA: What’s Next for Ambitious MGAs and Brokers? with David Plummer, Richard Ellis, John Needham & Andy Hurrell
31 minutes Posted May 5, 2026 at 6:00 am.
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The UK's MGA and broker landscape is buzzing with innovation, so why does BIBA remain the linchpin for meaningful partnership and growth? In this candid panel, leaders from PKF, Corin, Unicorn Underwriting, and Blue Fryers pull back the curtain on what really moves the market, how soft conditions are creating new winners, and why a physical presence in Manchester matters now more than ever. From harnessing MGAA community advantages to the next-gen talent push, this episode spotlights strategies, pitfalls, and the soft truths the sector can’t ignore. Get ahead or get left behind; don't miss these crucial insights.
 
Key Quotes:
“We try and champion a sort of virtual insurer model. We love the virtual insurer MGA model. What does that mean for us? Really, it's keeping all those key functions in-house, trying to operate, trade and think like an insurer.”
“What BIBA represents to us is a fantastic pool of innovators and entrepreneurs. MGAs continue to be a developing and growing space, and I think whilst we've had some mention of the soft market, we don't see that as a barrier.”
“Provided the broker sector continues innovating, then I think to a certain extent, without wishing to paraphrase a famous movie, if the broker sector continues to build these offers, then the capacity will follow because the investment opportunity is there.”
“I think what's interesting at BIBA is that we know there's an industry where there's been a lot of M&A. We know that it's still a relationship business, and what we like at BIBA is you get a lot of different account execs, a lot of people that you might not generally talk to day in, day out because we are all behind systems.”
“There definitely seems to be continuing interest in funding new projects, which is an indicator of the health of the sector. It's relative health or the absolute health of the sector. It's still really positive from that point of view.”
Resources:
https://www.amwins.com/solutions/underwriting/unicorn
https://www.linkedin.com/company/unicorn-underwriting-limited/
 
https://www.bluefriars.co.uk/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bluefriars-group/
 
https://www.pkf.co.uk/sectors/insurance/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/littlejohn/ 
 
https://corin.com/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/corin-underwriting/
About the Guests:
Richard Ellis, Business Development DirectorUnicorn Underwriting
Richard has worked in the Commercial Insurance sector in the UK and overseas for over 35 years, including senior pricing roles at RSA and LV=. He joined Unicorn Underwriting in 2018 to help set up the SME division and is now their Business Development Director
https://www.linkedin.com/in/richard-ellis-372a329/
Andy Hurrell, Founder and CEO
Corin 
With over 23 years of industry experience, Andy founded Corin in 2016 and is the current CEO responsible for all company strategy and planning as well as overseeing all aspects of the day-to-day business and operational matters.
In addition, he is Head of Underwriting for both the UK and Irish liability binders.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/andy-hurrell-60701627/
John Needham, Partner
PKF
John Needham is a Partner in PKF’s Financial Services team.
He has a particular focus on insurance distribution covering brokers and MGAs as well as working with businesses that include underwriting vehicles in their group. John advises businesses on a range of issues from emerging technology through to strategy. His approach is always hands on, spending significant time with people to get a real understanding of the issues at hand.
John has worked with the FCA and ICAEW on the development of the client money regulations and auditing standards. He has also been involved in regulatory investigations, working for firms and on behalf of the FCA.
John is a regular speaker on industry-related topics, both for PKF and on behalf of industry bodies such as the MGAA and Insurtech UK, and a frequent commentator on current issues in the insurance press. John wo