Mozek and Anwar talk about how this podcast is not about comedy, why Mozek hasn't been doing this podcast a lot, dealing with certain flavours of grief, solving problems with marriage, poetry, ApaKesah, figuring everything out, The Matrix, trajectory vs goals, failing better, communication through the comment section, Library: The Musical, smart comedy vs dumb comedy, the relationship between cute and stupid, old people trying to figure out Youtube, being on the way, writer's strike, and other stuff!--- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/mentolpecah/message