Stepping out of the wood, out of the dark, out of the night, the so-cast pod is back for a chat about the surprising parallels between Wicked and My So-Called Life! Sure, Winnie Holzman is one of the main writers behind both projects, so it makes sense that they'd have some things in common -- and we go deep on all of it, from the costumes to the music to the original novel.

Guests this week: Costumer Samantha Rei; Scottish comedian Scott Pirie, and media historian Terrence Moss. Plus, from the Sewers of Paris archives, my 2019 interview with Gregory Maguire -- the author of the novel on which the musical Wicked is based! And then James and I share some of our own Ozian experiences.