As Darth Vader enslaves the citizens of Kadril with the newest Imperial weapon, Pacifog, we welcome Rich Handley back to the podcast to chat about what makes Cassian an excitingly fresh presence in the Star Wars universe, to delight in the magic of Tulb in the Star Trek newspaper strip, and to discuss new lows, as we Star Wars Explore a truly baffling storyline about Kunda Stones and turtles.