Imagination and the Imaginal in the modern world7:20 Different kinds of power: agency, allure, contraries10:40 The revival of myth-telling but in the first person singular15:30 Martin’s rediscovery of Christianity21:40 The mossy face of Christ and what happened34:04 People’s reactions to Jesus: contraction and expansion39:04 Martin’s discovery of mystery in an Orthodox Church46:27 What does this rediscovery of Christianity mean to him?51:56 What does this mean for the “Christian curious”?54:50 The shamanistic presence of Malcolm Guite58:28 Mark’s journey in and around Christianity with Owen Barfield1:05:25 A turn to William Blake1:08:10 The transcendent possibility bubbling up again1:12:57 The diversity of traditions and the entry of spiritIt's often remarked that the age of New Atheism has passed. But what is emerging in its stead?In this wide-ranging conversation, Martin Shaw discusses, for the first time, his recent encounter with the figure of Jesus and steps towards a form of Christianity very different from his evangelical upbringing.Power and freedom, history and myths, the Inklings and the imagination are explored en route. And we ask what kind of Christianity might be evolving in our times.To find out more about Martin Shaw https://drmartinshaw.comTo find out more about Mark Vernon - https://www.markvernon.comTo find out more about Malcolm Guite - https://malcolmguite.wordpress.comTo find out more about Owen Barfield - https://www.markvernon.com/consciousnessTo find out more about The Temenos Academy - https://www.temenosacademy.org