Show notes
Rupert Spira and I met for a second conversation, beginning with one of William Blake's great exclamations of nondual awareness:“Awake! awake O sleeper of the land of shadows, wake! expand!I am in you and you in me, mutual in love divineI am not a God afar off, I am a brother and friend;Within your bosoms I reside, and you reside in me:Lo! we are One”We discussed the meanings of suffering and death that feel so needed and neglected in our times; different possibilities for the experience of time and the value of disagreement, similarly overlooked; the role of the erotic, play and the imagination on this path; and the reality of angels and the guidance of myths.1:39 The presence of nondualism today3:30 The meaning of suffering16:59 The true nature of death23:39 A different experience of time: Chronos, Kairos, Eternity36:06 The drivers of consumption and desiring heaven on earth42:29 The value of disagreement45:59 The erotic, play and standing in love53:43 The expansive value of the imagination1:02:54 Messages, angels and hierarchies1:14:36 Myths and crafts as guidesFor more about Rupert Spira see - https://rupertspira.comFor more about Mark Vernon see - https://www.markvernon.comOur first conversation is online here - https://youtu.be/x0SfOFPCPgk

