Assalamu'alaikum Wr. Wb.

No one leaves home unless home is the mouth of the shark. No one really wants to be a refugee.

On this month's MMSA podcast, we invite us all to see refugees from a new perspective. In this episode, we have conducted an interview with one of the broad known refugees activist, who is the Advocacy Coordinator at SUAKA Indonesia, Telly Nathalia, S.T., M.Sos.