This is our first all Spanish podcast! So it was only right we invited Ben's mother Kathia Lounsbury on the show! We discuss different ways to look into retirement in Panama. It is Ben and Kathia's home country and give Jonathan more information. We ask Kathia way too many questions as if she was the Commerce Secretary. And we plan on taking a trip next year to Panama! Enjoy!--- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/man-chatter5/message